Comments on: Antarctica Haiku

By: Raven

Raven — Sun, 31 May 2009 19:56:08 +0000

Armchair psychology on alarmists blogs is very common. It is just another form of ad hominum attack.

What frustrates me most about this debate is people can’t seem to understand that science is inherently uncertain and that any discussion about what to do about the uncertain science is a political question where the costs be weighed against the uncertainties.

What frustrates me more are alarmists who insist the AGW science is certain enough to justify a radical redesign of the economy yet reject less uncertain science that shows that nuclear power is safe.

By: lucia

lucia — Sun, 31 May 2009 12:47:41 +0000

Ryan O–
I think lot of people don’t want to argue ideas on their merits. Also, many don’t distinguish between discussing a specific issue and “the whole ball of wax. Also, when the specific individual points don’t go their way on the merits of the arguments, they want to switch to arguing by labels.

There was a hilarious blog post somewhere that was trying to argue about the whole issue by giving various deniers and skeptics all sorts of weird labels and then doing some armchair amateur phsychological diagnosis. I’m going to have to find that!

By: Ryan O

Ryan O — Sun, 31 May 2009 12:01:45 +0000

It’s like we’re back in 2nd grade – “I know you are but what am I?” Haha.

By: lucia

lucia — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:31:46 +0000

RyanO–
Yes. That’s what’s happened. The politics surrounding the science has resulted in there turning arguments into labels. For the most part, I’m just not going to worry about it.

By: Ryan O

Ryan O — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:11:00 +0000

It used to be that way until somehow the word “skeptic” got turned into a pejorative and a near-synonym with “denier”.

By: lucia

lucia — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:42:35 +0000

JohnM–
Technically, skeptical is neutral.

By: Jeff Id

Jeff Id — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:13:27 +0000

John M (Comment#14014) May 30th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

Why isn’t skeptical the same as neutral?

By: John M

John M — Sat, 30 May 2009 19:01:31 +0000

lucia (Comment#14010)

According to these guys, you’re already bi-polar.

http://climatedebatedaily.com/

You personally are listed under “Skeptical Blogs”, but The Blackboard is listed under “Neutral Sites”.

I think you ought to be under “Personalities”.

By: Andrew_KY

Andrew_KY — Sat, 30 May 2009 15:21:33 +0000

Anybody who looks at the data objectively has to be at least a skeptic, reasonably. You can’t look at a pile of dung, point to it and call it a Double Pepperoni Pizza, and be serious about it.

Andrew

By: lucia

lucia — Sat, 30 May 2009 14:03:46 +0000

VG– I’m not too concerned about how my site is classified. I’m pretty sure that activists already classify it as a skeptic site. Schneider called Pielke SR. a skeptic. He’s not.

By: VG

VG — Sat, 30 May 2009 08:20:22 +0000

Prediction: This site will be soon classified as a skeptic/denialist site for daring to post Ryan’s work as so on and on…. Lets wait and see……

By: Ryan O

Ryan O — Fri, 29 May 2009 23:37:40 +0000

Lucia,

Got your email. I absolutely have to figure out a way to work that in. Besides, a few old-school references look cool and official.

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Air Vent Makes a Splash « the Air Vent — Fri, 29 May 2009 22:41:45 +0000

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By: lucia

lucia — Fri, 29 May 2009 13:34:11 +0000

Ian– The warm/cold coaster idea is great. Unfortunately, the only thing I can do easily is put images on whatever is offered at cafepress. So, the warm/cold coasters aren’t possible.

By: lucia

lucia — Fri, 29 May 2009 12:19:58 +0000

Hmmm… I don’t know the cause. I’ll turn off the tip jar plugin for now. That’s new.

By: VG

VG — Fri, 29 May 2009 09:01:59 +0000

Great day for science today
1. Svensmarks Video’s here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
2. Ryan’s Posting here

By: Ian

Ian — Fri, 29 May 2009 08:25:22 +0000

I like the coaster idea – any chance of one that change between the warming and cooling as your coffee goes cold – as surely Steig and Mann must have got though a lot of the stuff to keep it showing their version.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Fri, 29 May 2009 07:14:06 +0000

Same problem with chrome/xp: “The website at rankexploits.com contains elements from the site odmarco.com, which appears to host malware”. Posting this with Opera which reports nothing.

By: Stuart Huggett

Stuart Huggett — Fri, 29 May 2009 06:17:34 +0000

Lucia

I got a Malware warning when visiting just now. I am using Safari on a Mac and do not expect it to infect me – do you know why this is??

By: lucia

lucia — Fri, 29 May 2009 01:18:16 +0000

Ryan, I’ll have to make one up and show you. Ideally, we could make 12 coasters, one with each of your tiles. That would be really fun.