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		<title>By: Klima-Lüge von Hackern entlarvt &#124; Wach-Auf-Deutschland.de</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-34989</link>
		<dc:creator>Klima-Lüge von Hackern entlarvt &#124; Wach-Auf-Deutschland.de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Steve McIntyre (Comment#23773) November 19th, 2009 at 6:08 pm [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peer-to-Peer Review: Hvordan ”Climategate” markerer begyndelsen til en ny videnskabelig bevægelse, 2. del &#171; Klimagate (ClimateGate)</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-32503</link>
		<dc:creator>Peer-to-Peer Review: Hvordan ”Climategate” markerer begyndelsen til en ny videnskabelig bevægelse, 2. del &#171; Klimagate (ClimateGate)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] af private e-mails. Hvad han ikke bemærkede, var at både Anthony Watts’ blog og Lucia havde bragt flere af e-mailsene. Med to andre fra netværket til at åbne døren, tænkte Jeff [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] af private e-mails. Hvad han ikke bemærkede, var at både Anthony Watts’ blog og Lucia havde bragt flere af e-mailsene. Med to andre fra netværket til at åbne døren, tænkte Jeff [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climategate, The CRUtape Letters &#187; Climategate: feiten en duiding in het klimaatdebat</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-30307</link>
		<dc:creator>Climategate, The CRUtape Letters &#187; Climategate: feiten en duiding in het klimaatdebat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] schrijven en vlak daarna op Climate Audit. Lucia pikte het commentaar van Mosher op en publiceerde het eerste bericht over de CRU e-mails. Daarna begon hij op Climate Audit berichten achter te laten verwijzend naar [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] schrijven en vlak daarna op Climate Audit. Lucia pikte het commentaar van Mosher op en publiceerde het eerste bericht over de CRU e-mails. Daarna begon hij op Climate Audit berichten achter te laten verwijzend naar [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Mosher Timeline &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-29962</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mosher Timeline &#171; Climate Audit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] downloaded the files and at 3:09 Eastern (14:09 blog time), Lucia made the first blog post on the topic entitledReal files or fake?  Lucia: Steve Mosher alerted us to an interesting [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Peer-to-Peer Review (Part III): How &#8216;Climategate&#8217; Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement - Big Journalism</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-29819</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Peer-to-Peer Review (Part III): How &#8216;Climategate&#8217; Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement - Big Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Climategate files were under the fierce scrutiny of the peer-to-peer review network at both The Blackboard and WattsUpWithThat. The origin of the term Climategate can even be tracked to the commenters of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Climategate files were under the fierce scrutiny of the peer-to-peer review network at both The Blackboard and WattsUpWithThat. The origin of the term Climategate can even be tracked to the commenters of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Peer-to-Peer Review (Part II): How &#8216;Climategate&#8217; Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement - Big Journalism</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-29718</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Peer-to-Peer Review (Part II): How &#8216;Climategate&#8217; Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement - Big Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of posting personal emails. What he did notice, however, was that both Anthony Watts’ blog and Lucia had posted several of the emails. With two from the network opening the door, Jeff thought to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of posting personal emails. What he did notice, however, was that both Anthony Watts’ blog and Lucia had posted several of the emails. With two from the network opening the door, Jeff thought to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peer-to-Peer Review: How ‘Climategate’ Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I &#124; Laissez-Nous Faire</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-29685</link>
		<dc:creator>Peer-to-Peer Review: How ‘Climategate’ Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I &#124; Laissez-Nous Faire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unit, the virtual organism moved to halt their promulgation. Early on, a few of the emails were posted on Lucia Liljegren’s skeptic blog The Blackboard. Shortly after the post, Lucia, a PhD and specialist in fluid mechanics, received an email from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Unit, the virtual organism moved to halt their promulgation. Early on, a few of the emails were posted on Lucia Liljegren’s skeptic blog The Blackboard. Shortly after the post, Lucia, a PhD and specialist in fluid mechanics, received an email from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peer-to-Peer Review: How ‘Climategate’ Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I &#171; Watts Up With That?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peer-to-Peer Review: How ‘Climategate’ Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I &#171; Watts Up With That?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unit, the virtual organism moved to halt their promulgation. Early on, a few of the emails were posted on Lucia Liljegren’s skeptic blog The Blackboard. Shortly after the post, Lucia, a PhD and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Peer-to-Peer Review: How &#8216;Climategate&#8217; Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I - Big Journalism</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-29548</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Peer-to-Peer Review: How &#8216;Climategate&#8217; Marks the Maturing of a New Science Movement, Part I - Big Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unit, the virtual organism moved to halt their promulgation. Early on, a few of the emails were posted on Lucia Liljegren’s skeptic blog The Blackboard. Shortly after the post, Lucia, a PhD and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CalvinDude.com &#187; Hide The Decline</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-27920</link>
		<dc:creator>CalvinDude.com &#187; Hide The Decline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] files sat dormant there until November 19, when another user alerted The Blackboard to its existence. This was quickly followed by a blog commentary by Anthony Watts and stories in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-24325</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This report in Der Spiegel from a German expert opens another closed door:
Global warming appears to have stalled. Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years. Some attribute the trend to a lack of sunspots, while others explain it through ocean currents.

Otherwise, however, not much is happening with global warming at the moment. The Earth&#039;s average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year.

Ironically, climate change appears to have stalled in the run-up to the upcoming world summit in the Danish capital, where thousands of politicians, bureaucrats, scientists, business leaders and environmental activists plan to negotiate a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Billions of euros are at stake in the negotiations.

Reached a Plateau

The planet&#039;s temperature curve rose sharply for almost 30 years, as global temperatures increased by an average of 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.25 degrees Fahrenheit) from the 1970s to the late 1990s. &quot;At present, however, the warming is taking a break,&quot; confirms meteorologist Mojib Latif of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in the northern German city of Kiel. Latif, one of Germany&#039;s best-known climatologists, says that the temperature curve has reached a plateau. &quot;There can be no argument about that,&quot; he says. &quot;We have to face that fact.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This report in Der Spiegel from a German expert opens another closed door:<br />
Global warming appears to have stalled. Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years. Some attribute the trend to a lack of sunspots, while others explain it through ocean currents.</p>
<p>Otherwise, however, not much is happening with global warming at the moment. The Earth&#8217;s average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year.</p>
<p>Ironically, climate change appears to have stalled in the run-up to the upcoming world summit in the Danish capital, where thousands of politicians, bureaucrats, scientists, business leaders and environmental activists plan to negotiate a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Billions of euros are at stake in the negotiations.</p>
<p>Reached a Plateau</p>
<p>The planet&#8217;s temperature curve rose sharply for almost 30 years, as global temperatures increased by an average of 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.25 degrees Fahrenheit) from the 1970s to the late 1990s. &#8220;At present, however, the warming is taking a break,&#8221; confirms meteorologist Mojib Latif of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in the northern German city of Kiel. Latif, one of Germany&#8217;s best-known climatologists, says that the temperature curve has reached a plateau. &#8220;There can be no argument about that,&#8221; he says. &#8220;We have to face that fact.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 1073 &#8220;Global Warming&#8221; Emails Leaked</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-24314</link>
		<dc:creator>1073 &#8220;Global Warming&#8221; Emails Leaked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Blackboard: Where Climate Talk Gets Hot! - Real files or fake?      Uncategorized [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-24312</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,interesting PROOFS of a Theory which,in &quot;regimes&quot; words &quot;simply is not existent&quot;.

CCTV,CO2-Ly,Afghanistzan and Iraq-Robbery (Oil and Drugs and Rock&#039;n&#039;Roll)...

HOW MUCH MUST THE FOLK,ALL PEOPLE, SUFFER to realize,that its gonna be slaved ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,interesting PROOFS of a Theory which,in &#8220;regimes&#8221; words &#8220;simply is not existent&#8221;.</p>
<p>CCTV,CO2-Ly,Afghanistzan and Iraq-Robbery (Oil and Drugs and Rock&#8217;n'Roll)&#8230;</p>
<p>HOW MUCH MUST THE FOLK,ALL PEOPLE, SUFFER to realize,that its gonna be slaved ?</p>
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		<title>By: KASPER &#187; Opwarming van de aarde: collectieve schuld of opgeklopte heisa?</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-24266</link>
		<dc:creator>KASPER &#187; Opwarming van de aarde: collectieve schuld of opgeklopte heisa?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [2] http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] [2] <a href="http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/" >http://rankexploits.com/musing.....s-or-fake/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mary M</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-24180</link>
		<dc:creator>mary M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the link to the emails? Interested graduate student.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the link to the emails? Interested graduate student.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkR</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-24173</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>				SNRatio (Comment#23981) &quot;Simple. Use independent sources of information, put in your own conservative estimates of key parameters, and keep the physics sound.

As an example: Take the no-feedback 1.1 oC warming per doubling of CO2 as the mode of your conservative pdf for net CO2 feedbacks, but be careful about underestimating positive feedbacks...&quot;

Without the evidence from the tainted sources, where does your belief that a 1.1 Deg C can be attributed th doubling CO2 come from? Surely that itself is the purpose of the myth created by the dodgy/corrupt statistics coming out of CRU and NASA GISS?

What you are advocating amounts to accepting that the structure of a building is sound after the foundations have been undermined.

Thats a silly idea, along with your other silliness of pretending that because some of the Climategate emails are trivial, that counters the criminality of the remainder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SNRatio (Comment#23981) &#8220;Simple. Use independent sources of information, put in your own conservative estimates of key parameters, and keep the physics sound.</p>
<p>As an example: Take the no-feedback 1.1 oC warming per doubling of CO2 as the mode of your conservative pdf for net CO2 feedbacks, but be careful about underestimating positive feedbacks&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Without the evidence from the tainted sources, where does your belief that a 1.1 Deg C can be attributed th doubling CO2 come from? Surely that itself is the purpose of the myth created by the dodgy/corrupt statistics coming out of CRU and NASA GISS?</p>
<p>What you are advocating amounts to accepting that the structure of a building is sound after the foundations have been undermined.</p>
<p>Thats a silly idea, along with your other silliness of pretending that because some of the Climategate emails are trivial, that counters the criminality of the remainder.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Hill</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-5/#comment-24079</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve set up a high-capacity mirror for the HadleyCRU files. You can download them here: http://bit.ly/4Ztg1f</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve set up a high-capacity mirror for the HadleyCRU files. You can download them here: <a href="http://bit.ly/4Ztg1f" >http://bit.ly/4Ztg1f</a></p>
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		<title>By: AirFiero</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-4/#comment-24076</link>
		<dc:creator>AirFiero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EW - Yes, thanks. I was asking if we know who said it to whom, which file it came from, and so on. It&#039;s a great article, but doesn&#039;t list any attributions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EW &#8211; Yes, thanks. I was asking if we know who said it to whom, which file it came from, and so on. It&#8217;s a great article, but doesn&#8217;t list any attributions.</p>
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		<title>By: EW</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-4/#comment-24074</link>
		<dc:creator>EW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Airfiero, this is from Delingpole&#039;s Telegraph column.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Airfiero, this is from Delingpole&#8217;s Telegraph column.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/" >http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/n.....l-warming/</a></p>
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		<title>By: boppa</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake/comment-page-4/#comment-24071</link>
		<dc:creator>boppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michael mann caught out fiddling with the figures AGAIN- 

seems to be a habit with him and his mates-why???

anything he (or anyone using his figures)  should be taken with a `pinch&#039; (definition of a pinch in this case being any amount being held between the fingers of a galaxy sized entitity- about 20000 trillion megatonnes....	)  of salt


hockeystick all over again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michael mann caught out fiddling with the figures AGAIN- </p>
<p>seems to be a habit with him and his mates-why???</p>
<p>anything he (or anyone using his figures)  should be taken with a `pinch&#8217; (definition of a pinch in this case being any amount being held between the fingers of a galaxy sized entitity- about 20000 trillion megatonnes&#8230;.	)  of salt</p>
<p>hockeystick all over again</p>
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