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		<title>By: spot_the_dog</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24463</link>
		<dc:creator>spot_the_dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya, just visiting via &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_global_warming_conspiracy_news_spreads/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bolta&#039;s blog&lt;/a&gt;.  Great stuff!  

But, where&#039;s the lutefisk?  Someone said there&#039;d be free lutefisk! What kinda joint is this, anyway... ;-/		
&lt;i&gt;~stomps away angrily~&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya, just visiting via <a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_global_warming_conspiracy_news_spreads/" >Bolta&#8217;s blog</a>.  Great stuff!  </p>
<p>But, where&#8217;s the lutefisk?  Someone said there&#8217;d be free lutefisk! What kinda joint is this, anyway&#8230; ;-/<br />
<i>~stomps away angrily~</i></p>
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		<title>By: lucia</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24286</link>
		<dc:creator>lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cbullitt--I&#039;m not diving into a morass of code like that. My main take is....  this sort of thing is going to turn up the volume on &quot;free the CRU data&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cbullitt&#8211;I&#8217;m not diving into a morass of code like that. My main take is&#8230;.  this sort of thing is going to turn up the volume on &#8220;free the CRU data&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew_KY</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24285</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew_KY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a large file of comments by a programmer at CRU called HARRY_READ_ME documenting that their data processing and modeling functions were completely out of control.

They fudged so much that NOTHING that came out of CRU can have ANY believability.&quot;

/sarc 

The data was &quot;wrong.&quot; What did you expect them to do?  ;)

/sarc off

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a large file of comments by a programmer at CRU called HARRY_READ_ME documenting that their data processing and modeling functions were completely out of control.</p>
<p>They fudged so much that NOTHING that came out of CRU can have ANY believability.&#8221;</p>
<p>/sarc </p>
<p>The data was &#8220;wrong.&#8221; What did you expect them to do?  <img src='http://rankexploits.com/musings/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>/sarc off</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: cbullitt</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24284</link>
		<dc:creator>cbullitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since some of you stopped by the other day. I thought I&#039;d ask your take on this. Have you looked at the Harry_Read_Me file?

http://cbullitt.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/the-harry_read_me-file/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since some of you stopped by the other day. I thought I&#8217;d ask your take on this. Have you looked at the Harry_Read_Me file?</p>
<p><a href="http://cbullitt.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/the-harry_read_me-file/" >http://cbullitt.wordpress.com/.....d_me-file/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew_KY</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24282</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew_KY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today, My Beloved Bengals were dealt an ignominious defeat at the hands of a dark and intimidating team called the Raiders. The only consolation is that the Steelers, Ravens and Browns were similarly dispatched by their opponents. ;)

Can you say Trap Game? Oy vey. :/

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, My Beloved Bengals were dealt an ignominious defeat at the hands of a dark and intimidating team called the Raiders. The only consolation is that the Steelers, Ravens and Browns were similarly dispatched by their opponents. <img src='http://rankexploits.com/musings/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Can you say Trap Game? Oy vey. :/</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: lucia</title>
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		<dc:creator>lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PMH:

Stinky lutefisk
smothered in bright mustard sauce.
No one touches it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PMH:</p>
<p>Stinky lutefisk<br />
smothered in bright mustard sauce.<br />
No one touches it.</p>
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		<title>By: PMH</title>
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		<dc:creator>PMH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucia,
I didn’t realize that demanding people visited your blog. Visiting your blog should be like being invited into your home; “thank you for your hospitality and I enjoyed the pickled pigs feet, or was that lutefish?”. As for your thought on the latest AGW revelations – in your own good time. Although it is the wrong time of year, I am waiting for another haiku theme to discuss tomatoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucia,<br />
I didn’t realize that demanding people visited your blog. Visiting your blog should be like being invited into your home; “thank you for your hospitality and I enjoyed the pickled pigs feet, or was that lutefish?”. As for your thought on the latest AGW revelations – in your own good time. Although it is the wrong time of year, I am waiting for another haiku theme to discuss tomatoes.</p>
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		<title>By: rastafarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>rastafarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia articles that do or should record this event in a neutral and balanced manner, with journalist-written sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climategate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Jones_(climatologist)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._Mann
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_stick_controversy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia articles that do or should record this event in a neutral and balanced manner, with journalist-written sources:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climategate" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climategate</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Jones_(climatologist)" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.....atologist)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._Mann" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._Mann</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_stick_controversy" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.....ontroversy</a></p>
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		<title>By: Don B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Premptive Post on tomorrow&#039;s unknown thread:	

The most interesting discovery to me (other than finding out that sometimes very important people actually cook, clean and do laundry) is reading Briffa say that 1000 years ago it was as warm as the present. Briffa being the magician who created a hockey stick from Yamal, which said something quite different.

So there is no misinterpretation, I really believe you, Jeff Id, and all the others are in fact very important. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Premptive Post on tomorrow&#8217;s unknown thread:	</p>
<p>The most interesting discovery to me (other than finding out that sometimes very important people actually cook, clean and do laundry) is reading Briffa say that 1000 years ago it was as warm as the present. Briffa being the magician who created a hockey stick from Yamal, which said something quite different.</p>
<p>So there is no misinterpretation, I really believe you, Jeff Id, and all the others are in fact very important. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: dhmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dhmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard and PaulM yes this is a serious issue and the media and politics have been used for many years to push the AGW agenda. The methods have been to use every dirty trick in the book to win the argument. Given the methods used by the opposition this is perfectly valid politically. The parties involved are showing they are political activists not scientists. Their agenda is not science it is belief and has more to do with religion or self interest. If they are successful the consequences are major. In Oz four power stations in one state generating 6 to 8 GW will most likely go into administration as soon as our ETS is passed. From there our electricity price will skyrocket and blackouts will be the order of the day. This is not just a threat it is the way money works. As for you guys my guess is you are the opposition and should get back to RealClimate where you belong. So Lucia and the producers of the clip go for it I will certainly pass it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard and PaulM yes this is a serious issue and the media and politics have been used for many years to push the AGW agenda. The methods have been to use every dirty trick in the book to win the argument. Given the methods used by the opposition this is perfectly valid politically. The parties involved are showing they are political activists not scientists. Their agenda is not science it is belief and has more to do with religion or self interest. If they are successful the consequences are major. In Oz four power stations in one state generating 6 to 8 GW will most likely go into administration as soon as our ETS is passed. From there our electricity price will skyrocket and blackouts will be the order of the day. This is not just a threat it is the way money works. As for you guys my guess is you are the opposition and should get back to RealClimate where you belong. So Lucia and the producers of the clip go for it I will certainly pass it on.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence_UK</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24257</link>
		<dc:creator>Spence_UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, Zero Wing internet memes FTW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, Zero Wing internet memes FTW!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Id</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24246</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Id</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care if you make posts like this all day.  It was hilarious and something the general public can get right away.  

I&#039;m not sure about your music tastes though. hehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care if you make posts like this all day.  It was hilarious and something the general public can get right away.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about your music tastes though. hehe.</p>
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		<title>By: lucia</title>
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		<dc:creator>lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard-- I should have added, &quot;Mañana&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard&#8211; I should have added, &#8220;Mañana&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: lucia</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24228</link>
		<dc:creator>lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I don’t know who you think you are, but you work for us and you darn well better get hopping.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Heh! :)
&lt;blockquote&gt;This seems to be very important. It’s nice to see their expert views when they let their guard down.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well... there seem to be some differences of opinion, n&#039;est pas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I don’t know who you think you are, but you work for us and you darn well better get hopping.</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh! <img src='http://rankexploits.com/musings/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>This seems to be very important. It’s nice to see their expert views when they let their guard down.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well&#8230; there seem to be some differences of opinion, n&#8217;est pas?</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24227</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucia:

I agree with Paul.  You need to provide a thorough analysis of the emails ASAP.  I don&#039;t know who you think you are, but you work for us and you darn well better get hopping. 

The late 2009 emails about the last 10-years of no warming are the most interesting to me.  Apparently some believe the heat is going into rain and escaping to space... but they don&#039;t know.  This seems to be very important.  It&#039;s nice to see their expert views when they let their guard down.

Overall they seem like a bunch of smart, hard working ambitious academics with the human foibles we all have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucia:</p>
<p>I agree with Paul.  You need to provide a thorough analysis of the emails ASAP.  I don&#8217;t know who you think you are, but you work for us and you darn well better get hopping. </p>
<p>The late 2009 emails about the last 10-years of no warming are the most interesting to me.  Apparently some believe the heat is going into rain and escaping to space&#8230; but they don&#8217;t know.  This seems to be very important.  It&#8217;s nice to see their expert views when they let their guard down.</p>
<p>Overall they seem like a bunch of smart, hard working ambitious academics with the human foibles we all have.</p>
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		<title>By: lucia</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24225</link>
		<dc:creator>lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PaulM--
You may not have noticed it, but I tend to post less substance on weekends. So, the situation is: 
Late Thursday: posted that story broke. 
Friday: Read lots of the emails... tried to figure out if it was true. Did some googleing to try to find out what I could determine about legality of reposting. (This was motivated by both a) something Gavin sent in an email to me on Friday and b) Mann&#039;s suggestion it was illegal to repost.)  I posted on that.  Answering some people&#039;s questions about whether there was anything &quot;in&quot; the emails about them.  Trying to figure out what I think over all. (I still haven&#039;t read them all.)  Digesting some useful to me information in the emails. 
Saturday: Cooked, cleaned, did laundry, hosted inlaws for usual Saturday. stuff. Posted funnier stuff I&#039;d found.
Sunday: Was sent the youtube video. Thought it&#039;s funny. Posted. Sent out several emails motivated by my interpretation of the useful to me information in the emails.  Went to breakfast with said inlaws. Read comments. Went grocery shopping.  Getting ready for inlaws and &lt;i&gt;my family&lt;/i&gt; to get here for football game.

I may post what I think tomorrow-- but I need to figure out which bits are post worthy. There are soooooo many possible topics:
A) Ethics of reposting? (I think it&#039;s mostly fine. but boring.)
B) What the real fall out will be? (I think neither the activists nor the stone-colders are wrong about it ... and I&#039;m not sure I want to say. Some of the fall out will never be obvious.)
C) Is the mail fake or real: Mostly real.
D) What should people do in response?

Anyway, there are just too many topics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PaulM&#8211;<br />
You may not have noticed it, but I tend to post less substance on weekends. So, the situation is:<br />
Late Thursday: posted that story broke.<br />
Friday: Read lots of the emails&#8230; tried to figure out if it was true. Did some googleing to try to find out what I could determine about legality of reposting. (This was motivated by both a) something Gavin sent in an email to me on Friday and b) Mann&#8217;s suggestion it was illegal to repost.)  I posted on that.  Answering some people&#8217;s questions about whether there was anything &#8220;in&#8221; the emails about them.  Trying to figure out what I think over all. (I still haven&#8217;t read them all.)  Digesting some useful to me information in the emails.<br />
Saturday: Cooked, cleaned, did laundry, hosted inlaws for usual Saturday. stuff. Posted funnier stuff I&#8217;d found.<br />
Sunday: Was sent the youtube video. Thought it&#8217;s funny. Posted. Sent out several emails motivated by my interpretation of the useful to me information in the emails.  Went to breakfast with said inlaws. Read comments. Went grocery shopping.  Getting ready for inlaws and <i>my family</i> to get here for football game.</p>
<p>I may post what I think tomorrow&#8211; but I need to figure out which bits are post worthy. There are soooooo many possible topics:<br />
A) Ethics of reposting? (I think it&#8217;s mostly fine. but boring.)<br />
B) What the real fall out will be? (I think neither the activists nor the stone-colders are wrong about it &#8230; and I&#8217;m not sure I want to say. Some of the fall out will never be obvious.)<br />
C) Is the mail fake or real: Mostly real.<br />
D) What should people do in response?</p>
<p>Anyway, there are just too many topics!</p>
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		<title>By: PaulM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Lucia.  This is a serious issue. It&#039;s not popular entertainment. It&#039;s now pretty clear that the emails are genuine.  And you&#039;ve now had time to digest them. 
Please can we have a serious posting about it?
What is your opinion of the emails?
Storm in a teacup, smoking gun or somewhere in between?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Lucia.  This is a serious issue. It&#8217;s not popular entertainment. It&#8217;s now pretty clear that the emails are genuine.  And you&#8217;ve now had time to digest them.<br />
Please can we have a serious posting about it?<br />
What is your opinion of the emails?<br />
Storm in a teacup, smoking gun or somewhere in between?</p>
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		<title>By: TerryMN</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryMN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks - I figured that with the &quot;more to come&quot; tag, or whatever it was.  Good luck to your Bears today! (they&#039;ll need it! :) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks &#8211; I figured that with the &#8220;more to come&#8221; tag, or whatever it was.  Good luck to your Bears today! (they&#8217;ll need it! <img src='http://rankexploits.com/musings/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: lucia</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24208</link>
		<dc:creator>lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TerryMN-- It seems to. I scrolled forward and it doesn&#039;t seem to end.  The first two minutes are &quot;the content&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TerryMN&#8211; It seems to. I scrolled forward and it doesn&#8217;t seem to end.  The first two minutes are &#8220;the content&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryMN</title>
		<link>http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/the-hacked-files-now-popular-entertainment-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-24205</link>
		<dc:creator>TerryMN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, nice.  Does the end credit really sit there for 3 minutes? (didn&#039;t wait to check).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, nice.  Does the end credit really sit there for 3 minutes? (didn&#8217;t wait to check).</p>
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