RyanO sent me an email requesting this be posted. The email contains an FOI he sent to UEA, with the “to” and “from” stripped to avoid assisting spam bots from harvesting the emails. Ryan advises me that the email actually sent to UEA contains the full emails. This step should help some of us determine whether the emails in the zip file are genuine or fake.
Everyone,
I can’t get into CA, and tAV and Lucia are blocked at my work. I just submitted the following FOI request to UEA that should probably be posted somewhere publicly:
Dear Mr. Palmer,
I hereby make a EIR/FOI request for the complete text of the following emails transmitted over the University of East Anglia’s servers (header information is given):
Header #1
From:
To:
Subject: Re: FOIA
Date: Fri Jan 21 15:20:06 2005
Cc:Excerpt: “I wouldn’t worry about the code. If FOIA does ever get used by anyone, there is also IPR to consider as well. Data is covered by all the agreements we sign with people, so I will be hiding behind them. I’ll be passing any requests onto the person at UEA who has been given a post to deal with them.”
Header #2
From:
To:
Subject: Re: FW: Your Ref: FOI_08-23 – IPCC, 2007 WGI Chapter 6 Assessment Process [FOI_08-23]
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:13:35 +0100
Cc:Excerpt: “On (2) [xxxxx] should say that he didn’t get any papers through the IPCC process.either. … What we did get were papers sent to us directly – so not through IPCC, asking us to refer to them in the IPCC chapters.”
Header #3
From:
To:
Subject: IPCC & FOI
Date: Thu May 29 11:04:11 2008Excerpt: “Can you delete any emails you may have had with [xxxxx] re AR4? … Can you also email [xxxxx] and get him to do the same? I don’t have his new email address.”
Header #4
From:
To:
Subject: Re: CA
Date: Mon Jun 23 09:54:03 2008Excerpt: “I’ve saved all three threads as they now stand. No time to read all the comments, but I did note in “Fortress Met Office” that someone has provided a link to a website that helps you to submit FOI requests to UK public institutions, and subsequently someone has made a further FOI request to Met Office and someone else made one to DEFRA. If it turns into an organised campaign designed more to inconvenience us than to obtain useful information, then we may be able to decline all related requests without spending ages on considering them. Worth looking out for evidence of such an organised campaign.”
Header #5
From:
To:
Subject: Re: Revised version the Wengen paper
Date: Wed Aug 20 09:32:52 2008
Cc:Excerpt: “The FOI line we’re all using is this. IPCC is exempt from any countries FOI – the skeptics have been told this. Even though we (MOHC, CRU/UEA) possibly hold relevant info the IPCC is not part our remit (mission statement, aims etc) therefore we don’t have an obligation to pass it on.”
Header #6
From:
To:
Subject: Re: Schles suggestion
Date: Wed Dec 3 13:57:09 2008
Cc:Excerpt: “When the FOI requests began here, the FOI person said we had to abide by the requests. It took a couple of half hour sessions – one at a screen, to convince them otherwise showing them what CA was all about. Once they became aware of the types of people we were dealing with, everyone at UEA (in the registry and in the Environmental Sciences school – the head of school and a few others) became very supportive. I’ve got to know the FOI person quite well and the Chief Librarian – who deals with appeals.”
I also submit a SEPARATE FOI request for any emails transmitted over UEA’s servers that contain any content related to FOI requests submitted to UEA during calendar year 2009.
As you may or may not be aware, copies of many UEA emails have appeared all over the internet. Some emails have been confirmed to be entirely accurate. It is not presently known whether the emails referred to above are also accurate. If they are accurate, they may represent a deliberate and concerted effort to be non-responsive to legitimate FOI requests, and therefore would be covered under the FOI regulations (and quite possibly other regulations as well).
Full text of the alleged emails can be provided if necessary. I intend to post this FOI request publicly. However, I will remove all names from the headers and text as I do not know whether the emails and excerpts are authentic until this FOI request is fulfilled.
Sincerely,
[xxxxx]
I told you way back when ‘The dog ate the homework,’ didn’t know the poor dumb thing would gag this bad on it; looks like he just puked on their nicely polished floor.
Who’s on Oprah today?
Thanks, Lucia.
Of course, it appears as if UEA is not going to refute the authenticity of the emails, so really the only part of the request that has any relevance is the one they are likely to deny (at least initially) – which is the request for all emails related to FOI.
Hi,
This pertains to FOI itself not the climate stuff so I will post it here.
In 1228922050.txt there is the following (slightly ambiquous) pair of sentences:
“According to the FOI Commissioner’s Office, IPCC is an international organization, so is above any national FOI. Even if UEA holds anything about IPCC, we are not obliged to pass it on, unless it has anything to do with our core business – and it doesn’t!”
If the second sentence is on advice from the Commissioner’s Office, I am a little surprised.
It is not reflected in UEA policy:
Here is an excert from the UEA FOI uidance to staff:
http://www.uea.ac.uk/is/foi/guidance
5 key facts that all staff should know about Freedom of Information
•The Act gives everyone both in and outside UEA a right of access to ANY recorded information held by UEA
•A request for information must be answered within 20 working days
•If you receive a request for information which mentions FOI, is not information you routinely provide, is unusual, or you are unsure of, you should pass the request to your FOIA contact or the Information Policy and Compliance Manager
•You should ensure that UEA records are well maintained and accessible to other staff, so that they can locate information needed to answer a request when you are not there
•As all documents and emails could potentially be released under the Act, you should ensure that those you create are clear and professional
The capitialised ANY is in the original.
The last bullet point seems to have gone unheeded.
Alex