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What if the potty mouthed cheerlead had lost?

We’d discussed the the “F*** cheer” incident when it was argued at SCOTUS. By now many of you know the cheerleader won. The school and school board did violate her 1st amendment rights when they kicked her off the cheersquad for her Snapchat outburts.

On Volokh a commenter wondered

am curious why her private comments to a privately selected cadre of friends in a private digital medium recieved the ire of the school for being disruptive when but for the actions of another person who brought this content and then shared it themselves with others at school it would not have been a school issue.

Why isn’t this second person the one having to defend themsleves in court (where I would support them being victorious just as B.L. was)? It was their speech… essentially quoting B.L., that would be the source of on campus disruption. Had they not quoted it/shared it… the whole thing would have likely stayed a totally private affair.

When I read that I recalled that the ‘second person’ in question was the cheer coach’s daughter. So I was motivated to hunt more down. It’s not easy to find likely because it was a legally relevant question. I did find this at wikipedia:

The following weekend, B.L. and a friend commiserated about the apparent unfairness of this at the Cocoa Hut, a convenience store in downtown Mahanoy City where students often socialized. Using B.L.’s smartphone, the two took a selfie with middle fingers raised and posted it to her Snapchat story with the text “fuck school fuck softball fuck cheer fuck everything”.[6][7][8] A followup Snap expressed their frustration about being kept on the JV squad while the incoming freshman girl made varsity; they believed they were being treated unfairly. B.L. sent the two Snaps to a group of 250 friends, many of whom were fellow students, some of them cheerleaders themselves.[4]
The Snap itself self-deleted in a short period of time, but one of her teammates took a screenshot.[6] One of those teammates was the daughter of one of the coaches, who had herself been suspended from cheering at a few games after she had posted disparaging remarks online about another school’s cheerleading squad’s uniforms.[9] By the time school resumed for the following week, the screenshot had been widely shared among students, especially the cheerleaders. Some who had seen it came to the cheerleading coaches “visibly upset” by the Snap[10] over the next few days.[4] At the end of the week one of the coaches pulled B.L. out of class to inform her that she was suspended from cheerleading for the next year as a result of her Snap.[3] B.L.’s parents appealed the suspension to the school board, which upheld it.[7

So reading that, I can’t help wonder two more things:

  • Just how authoritarian do the Mahony cheer coaches think they have a right to be? Reading the case, you’d think it was the profanity that took things over the top and resulted in the suspension. But we see the cheer coaches deemed merely criticizing another teams uniforms online sufficient cause to kick a kid off the cheer squad!
  • In the school’s case to the court, they related that some cheerleaders were “upset” about the Snapchat post. This “disruption” springing from the speech was supposedly the justification for going all medieval on Brandi the cheerleader.But I haven’t found details relating what precisely these cheerleaders were “visibly upset” about. Was it Brandi Levy’s use of profanity? (i.e. Her speech.) Or was it a perception that whatever rule existed it should be applied evenly? Was the coach’s daughter possibly upset that she had gotten kicked off for internet speech but Brandi was going to get away with it? That would be a very human reaction and even more typical of 14 year old cheerleaders. If the latter, then Brandi’s speech itself wasn’t the source of any upset. It was the school’s uneven handling of all internet speech!

Anyway, I can’t help but think it looks like the school’s policies were clearly aimed at controlling even non-vulgar fairly bland criticisms of sartorial choices of others. Of course, in court the school didn’t say they want to control every student utterance everywhere. They presented themselves as wanting to control things like bullying, cheating, harassment or true threats. But it’s pretty clear this particular school was in the habit of trying to control even entirely innocuous speech and did so.

I hate to think how many schools would have thought it fine to control every aspect of student speech every where if this school had won! (And I’m also now curious about the other school’s cheer uniforms. Were they ugly? Slutty? Dowdy? Enquiring bloggers want to know.)

Comment note: I’ve got other open threads. Let’s stick to the cheerleader and free speech here. Or, if you can find them the other schools uniforms!

Go Vote!

I voted. This is the first time there’s ever been a line at my polling place. It took 15 minutes.

I also noticed I spoiled my ballot and got a new one, thereby making the line longer. My husband did the same damn thing. ( We both were hasty on the first ballot measure and didn’t notice the “should foo oppose bar”, and voted the opposite of or intention. So if you want higher taxes you should vote “no” and if you do not want them you vote “yes/si”. We both realized or mistake when the later ballot measures were worded similarly and said…. dang!

Go Vote. (Well…. if you are American and legally entitled to do so.)
Read the ballot measures carefully. And if you don’t and screw up, remember you can replace a spoiled ballot. 🙂

SCOTUS RULES!

I first saw the news on Twitter!

The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 Tuesday that non-union public-sector workers who are nevertheless represented by a union for bargaining purposes cannot be required to pay union fees. Janus v. AFSCME hinged on the case of Mark Janus, a child-support specialist in Illinois who argued that he should not be forced to pay fees to his union. Existing law, as determined by the 1977 decision in Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, states that all employees must pay a fee to account for the benefits of collective bargaining that unions offer.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/scotus-rules-against-unions-in-janus-case

Very important case!
Open Thread.

update: The ruling itself is here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-1466_2b3j.pdf

Tidbit:
How much was the AFSCME agency fee in Illinois? “Here it was 78.06% of full union dues”. That’s a lot of money!

Sounds like “opt-in” may be required. I’m sure unions would have preferred “opt-out”. Both the state and the union are prohibitted from extracting, so there isn’t going to be some work around where the “state” makes it a rule to take the money and then hand it over to the union.

3. For these reasons, States and public-sector unions may no longer extract agency fees from nonconsenting employees. The First Amendment is violated when money is taken from nonconsenting employees for a public-sector union; employees must choose to sup-port the union before anything is taken from them. Accordingly, nei-ther an agency fee nor any other form of payment to a public-sector union may be deducted from an employee, nor may any other attempt be made to collect such a payment, unless the employee affirmatively consents to pay. Pp. 48–49.

Happy Groundhog’s (and memo release) Day!

It looks like the memo is declassified. Fox is starting to report…. I’m sure others will too. I’m waiting for a link to the memo itself which should be soon.

Admittedly, Fox tends to lean one way. Still, it’s the first discussion I saw today on Twitter. I haven’t seen others so I can’t “balance”. We need a thread to discuss this.

“House memo states disputed dossier was key to FBI’s FISA warrant to surveil members of Team Trump”

Update:
The House Intel Memo On FISA Abuse Was Just Released. Read It Here

Hillary: Giving Weinstein money back? Uhmmm not really.

We need a new thread. Might as well comment on the topic du jour: Weinstein.

Lots of things could be said. I’m going to comment on Hillary’s response when asked if she’s giving his money back.

“What other people are saying, what my former colleagues are saying, is they’re going to donate it to charity, and of course I will do that,” she said. “I give 10% of my income to charity every year, this will be part of that. There’s no — there’s no doubt about it.”

My translation: She’s going to continue giving 10% of her income to charity she likes– just as she’s always done. Just as she would have done if the Weinstein story had not come out. The Weinstein story will not affect her donations in any way.

In other words: She’s not giving up a penny of the money Weinstein gave her.

Source:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/politics/hillary-clinton-harvey-weinstein-fareed-zakaria-cnntv/index.html

Of course, Hillary’s reaction to the story isn’t the most important aspect. But I do think it tells us something about Hillary. Something many people already know. But…. still…

The other interesting story: Ronan Farrow who supported his sister when she accused Woody Allen of sexual abuse seems to be a major hero in this story about Weinstein’s sexual depradations. Go Ronan!

Open Thread.

Comey Memo: Jan 6.

The other comment thread is in the multiple hundreds. So, I thought I’d take notes on Comey’s memo to try and clarify things for myself.

As many of you know, I wouldn’t mind at all if Trump stepped down from office. DC seems to be a three or more ring circus right now with with potential villains in each ring. But the Comey memo and testimony is in the main righ right now. So I want to comment on that. This is not really any sort of analysis of what it all means. But I think it’s worth discussing what the claimed ‘facts’ are, and how they are presented. For now, I will just make some comments on the “Jan 6” meeting.

When commenting, I am keenly aware this a document Comey wrote; presumably he went over it carefully. So I think it’s worth nothing what he chooses to tells us, where what he does not tell us, and comment on structural aspect that might lead the reader to take a particular view of what the facts mean.

I will interlace comments; some points that strike me as important do so in context of things we learn or hear after the memo was published. Feel free to discuss.

January 6 Briefing
I first met then-President-Elect Trump on Friday, January 6 in a conference room at Trump Tower in New York. I was there with other Intelligence Community (IC) leaders to brief him and his new national security team on the findings of an IC assessment concerning Russian efforts to interfere in the election. At the conclusion of that briefing, I remained alone with the President- Elect to brief him on some personally sensitive aspects of the information assembled during the assessment.

Comey initiated a one on one meeting with the President to brief Trump, then President Elect.

The IC leadership thought it important, for a variety of reasons, to alert the incoming President to the existence of this material, even though it was salacious and unverified. Among those reasons were: (1) we knew the media was about to publicly report the material and we believed the IC should not keep knowledge of the material and its imminent release from the President-Elect; and (2) to the extent there was some effort to compromise an incoming President, we could blunt any such effort with a defensive briefing.

The Intelligence Community leadership thought the President Elect should be briefed about something.

The Director of National Intelligence asked that I personally do this portion of the briefing because I was staying in my position and because the material implicated the FBI’s counter-intelligence responsibilities. We also agreed I would do it alone to minimize potential embarrassment to the President-Elect. Although we agreed it made sense for me to do the briefing, the FBI’s leadership and I were concerned that the briefing might create a situation where a new President came into office uncertain about whether the FBI was conducting a counter-intelligence investigation of his personal conduct.

The Director of National Intelligence thought it appropriate and advisable for the Comey to meet one-on-one with the President Elect. Also, the “We” (which includes at least Comey and the Director of National Intelligence) appear to believe “minimiz[ing] potential embarrassment to the President-Elect” is good reason to have arrange one-on-one meetings between Comey acting as Head of the FBI and the President Elect.

Comment: One might imagine Trump would infer that since Comey initiated one-on-one meeting for a reason that seems good to Comey and the Director of National intelligince, there is nothing inherently wrong or inappropriate about one-on-one meetings between the head of the FBI and the President. In fact, as the briefing was attended by at least several members of the Intelligence Community, Trump, naif that he is said to be, might very well think that one-on-one meetings to discuss delicate matters were Comey and the FBI’s preference.

I’ll skip a paragraph describing how counter intelligence works which doesn’t seem relevant to the question of whether Trump did anything wrong.

This one may contain a relevant bit:

Because the nature of the hostile foreign nation is well known, counterintelligence investigations tend to be centered on individuals the FBI suspects to be witting or unwitting agents of that foreign power. When the FBI develops reason to believe an American has been targeted for recruitment by a foreign power or is covertly acting as an agent of the foreign power, the FBI will “open an investigation” on that American and use legal authorities to try to learn more about the nature of any relationship with the foreign power so it can be disrupted.

It’s worth nothing that this suggest that a person being under investigation by the FBI does not mean they are suspected of any crime or wrong doing. They might simply be a target for recruitment. So, one cannot assume that, Flynn, for example was suspected of a crime or wrong doing merely on the basis of being under investigation as a person. (Of course, he might be.)

Back to more specifically Trump-Comey stuff.

In that context, prior to the January 6 meeting, I discussed with the FBI’s leadership team whether I should be prepared to assure President-Elect Trump that we were not investigating him personally. That was true; we did not have an open counter-intelligence case on him. We agreed I should do so if circumstances warranted. During our one-on-one meeting at Trump Tower, based on President- Elect Trump’s reaction to the briefing and without him directly asking the question, I offered that assurance

People at the FBI thought it was important for Trump to know he was not under investigation. Comey proactively volunteered this information based on his interpretation of Trump’s reaction to the news about the salacious material. (We are not told what that reaction was.)

I felt compelled to document my first conversation with the President-Elect in a memo. To ensure accuracy, I began to type it on a laptop in an FBI vehicle outside Trump Tower the moment I walked out of the meeting. Creating written records immediately after one-on-one conversations with Mr. Trump was my practice from that point forward. This had not been my practice in the past. I spoke alone with President Obama twice in person (and never on the phone) – once in 2015 to discuss law enforcement policy issues and a second time, briefly, for him to say goodbye in late 2016. In neither of those circumstances did I memorialize the discussions. I can recall nine one-on-one conversations with President Trump in four months – three in person and six on the phone.

At this point, Comey tells us felt compelled to document the one-on-one conversation which he initiated. Mind you: this is a feeling and Comey said compelled rather inclined or something gentler.

Interestingly, if we look at the paragraph, Comey omits any explanation of why he felt compelled. Ordinarily one might infer that what follows is the explanation; that’s how people normally communicate. But that it does not appear to be an explanation. Here’s what follows:

  • Comey explains that documenting these conversations with Presidents was a new thing for him. So his feeling of compulsion was not just feeling compelled to follow his usual practices; this was a deviation.
  • Comey’s explanation about how unusual it was to have one-on-one conversations, his explanation that he’d had many one-on-ones with Trump that with other presidents.
  • It’s impossible to believe that the fact that the one-on-one meeting was unusual would be the reason Comey felt compelled to document it since Comey and the intelligence community set out to have this meeting in this way, and Comey initiated.

What we can learn from this bit of discussion is that Comey’s document gives the impression he started documenting for reasons that could not have been reasons for his feeling of compulsion. (He later gives a reason. I’m mostly looking at this document which I assume was crafted with some care. However, I am noticing this precisely because he does later provide a reason.)

Closing this comment on the Jan 6 meeting, I want to say something that’s important context of later discussions about “leaks”. Comey tells us he typed up the document while still in an FBI vehicle. It’s about a meeting he and the Director of National Intelligence (and possibly others) planned and agreed to. We know this went into a file at the FBI and written to have documentation that those at the FBI could see. The document would seem “work related” to me.

Are Yellow Lights Badly Timed? Engineering & Law

Have any of you heard of the electronics engineer who is being fined $500 for criticizing the timing of yellow lights? Yes. It’s true. The Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering and Land Surveying has punished Mats Järlström for presenting his analysis of the timing of yellow lights while calling himself an engineer.

I’m not going to get into the legal details; those are being discussed elsewhere, including at The Volokh Conspiracy. The legal issues have also been discussed at motherboard, doubltess other places by now.

Instead of focusing on the legal issues, I’m going to discuss timing of yellow lights and Järlström analysis. Because I was interested in this, I asked Eugene Volokh if he has any documents desribing Järlström. He provided me with a one page submission which describes Järlström, but being a court submission rather than a full engineering document it is lacking in details a person might need to be absolutely certain of each item. Specifically: when reading it, I was not sure about the precise definition of a variable indicating a deceleration rate in Järlström analysis. Owing to the court case, Järlström currently finds himself in legal jeopardy if he discusses his analysis.

So I read the document, and then did my own analysis trying to account for the features he was considering in his. The main features of his analysis are to extend that of 1959 analysis but to consider the possibility a car must slow down when approaching the intersection.

The main conclusion: Järlström is right if we consider the possibility the car must slow down to some safespeed when entering the intersection, yellow lights are mistimed.

For most people: that’s enough. But for those of us who like to show students that the topic they are learning is useful: this is a 1-D kinematics problem. In fact, it is an application of the first topic covered in high school physics. While the full analysis overly for a homework problem, the skill required to do the analysis are covered around September or October in traditional physics classes. A similar problem appears in Chapter 2 of the Sixth Edition of Giancoli Physics (see problem 32, page 40.) That problem is easier for students because the question contains numerical values, and the car is not decelerating when approaching the intersection. But it applies all the same concepts.

As I know do tutor high school students, let’s first consider a driver approaching an intersection with a stop light. The general situation is illustrated below. The intersection has some width w, the car, shown by the bold black outline, has some length d. Suppose when the car is in the position shown, it is moving with speed $latex v_a $ and, owing to the driver’s desire to turn into the driveway of the grocery store immediately after the light, the car is decelerating at a rate $latex a_{s} $. Then the light suddenly turns yellow.

Local traffic law can vary, but let us suppose for this case, the law dictates that

  1. If the car can stop, it must
  2. If the car enters the intersection, it must clear the intersection before the light turns red and
  3. If the car enters to clear the intersection and fails to clear, the driver will be given a ticket.

It would be unfair to put drivers in the situation where those that cannot stop also cannot clear the intersection. So the engineering question is then: How long should the yellow light last before it can turn red? In particular: we might want to know the minimum time the yellow light should be on.

In these problems the logic is that one first determine the cases when a car cannot stop without entering the intersection. Once those are determined, one determines the maximum time it takes those cars to clear the intersection.

It turns out that the key situation to analyze is that of the car whose minimum stopping distance equals the distance to the stopping light, and then find the time it would take that car to clear the intersection. All cars further from the stopping distance can stop and should; all cars closer than the stopping distance will clear the light in a shorter amount of time.
This stopping distance is called the “critical distance” and will be denoted $latex x_c $.

Stop analysis: Critical Stopping Distance

Naturally, the first step is to find the critical distance traveled. For this case, I will only consider cars moving toward the light and decelerating when the light changes. I will also assume that drivers, being human, require a finite reaction time $latex t_1 $ to respond to the change in the light. If so, the car’s speed could be described as following the black trace during the time from 0 when the light turns yellow to $latex t_1 $. The initial speed is $latex v_a $, this slows to $latex v_p $ at $latex t_1 $. I am also only going to consider cars traveling on level roads (the extension to inclines is straightforward.)

To stop in the minimum distance (and time) the driver must hit the brakes and decelerate at the maximum possible value, which is indicated as $latex a_{max} $. The distance traveled is the area under the (v,t) curve and the time axis. The car will travel Δx during the first $latex t_1 $ (dark grey) and an additional distance indicated by the hatched grey region between $latex t_1 $ and $latex t_2 $. The critical distance is the sum of these two:

(1) $latex x_c = \Delta x_1 + \frac{v_p^2}{2a_{max}} $

with (1a) $latex \Delta x_1 =\frac{(v_a+v_p)}{2} t_1 $ and
(1b) $latex \Delta v_p =v_a -a_{s} t_1 $

Go analysis: Critical Stopping Distance

To avoid a system where tickets are given out unjustly, cars that cannot stop must be given sufficient time to clear the intersection. When determining this, one must consider the range of options the drivers should be permitted. We will defer discussing the “traditional” solution (which evidently was published in 1959) and instead consider the case of the driver I described above. The driver above wishes to turn into the grocery store. To do so safely, they have a target speed for the intersection which they consider the “safe” speed to pass through the intersection. We will call this $latex v_{safe} $.

Possibly the driver has also been taught that they should pass through intersections at constant speed. This prudent strategy is often advocated as one that reduced confusion for all the cars and pedestrians who might need to gauge their own strategies for traversing the intersection. Drivers are also often discouraged from accelerating to make a light, and in this case, a prudent driver may decide to minimize the total number of operations involved in getting through the intersection.

They might chose to follow the strategy shown with the blue trace below:

To clear the intersection they must travel a distance equal to the sum of the critical distance and the adjusted length of the intersection:
(2) $latex x_c + W = \Delta x_1 +\frac{v_p^2-v_{safe}^2}{2 a_{go}} + v_{safe}/(t_{y}-t_2) $

Where W is the sum of the intersection width and the length of the vehicle, and $latex a_{go} $ is the deceleration rate of the car required for the driver to achieve the safe distance just as the front of the car enters the intersection; this occurs at time $latex t_2$ indicated.

For now, we will assume the driver has sufficient skill to just do this, if so, car will travel the critical distance $latex x_c $ during time $latex t_2$. To avoid a ticket, driver will need to yellow light to remain open at least as long as the time for his travel. So for this driver the light must still be yellow at

(3) $latex t_y = t_2 + W/v_{safe} $.

For both (2) and (4) to be true, his rate of deceleration must be:
(4) $latex a_{go} = a_{max}\{1- \frac{v_{safe}}{v_{p}} \} $

Applying the relation between change in velocity and acceleration
(5) $latex t_2 = t_1 + \frac{v_p-v_{safe}}{a_{go}} $

We can use (5) along with (1b) to determine the time the yellow light must remain on for a particular driver entering at speed $latex v_a $ and slowing to $latex v_p $ that is just sufficient to stop to clear the light if that combination of corresponds to being unable to stop. That time is $latex t_y $.

Longer times are not required for other drivers because either the combination corresponds to a condition where they can stop or a condition where they clear the light more quickly.

Design of the light.

By itself equation (6) is not sufficient to determine the time the minimum time a yellow light last on any particular roadway. The designer of the yellow light must consider all legitimate combinations of $latex v_a $ and $latex v_p $ and set the length of yellow light long enough to permit them all to clear. A few more applications of kinematics are required.

To continue the analysis I’ll binge and indulge in calculus. This exercise will be seen to be utterly unnecessary; but I’m putting it here because someone might wonder about the issue. Or perhaps my motive is merely to make this an AP Physics C question, ;). After the excursion, I will continue find the time required for the driver in the scenario above to clear the intersection.

Superfluous Calculus Interlude:
The driving scenarios I discussed above consider a wider range of entering conditions than one discussed in Jälrström 1 page exhibit. My analysis considers the possibility the driver is already decelerating at a rate $latex a_s $ prior to entering the intersection; Jälrström’s analysis assumes they do not decelerate until they are able to react to the light. If the designer in charge of setting the light timings for an intersection uses my more complicated entry condition, they must also consider how the value of $latex a_s $ the time, so that they can ensure they provide enough time for all reasonable combinations of entry speed and initial deceleration.

To do this we, must find the minimum value of $latex t_y $, which can be done by taking the differentiating (3) with respect to $latex a_s $. We conclude $latex \frac{dt_y}{da_s} = \frac{dt_2}{da_s} $. Doing this as slowly and ploddingly as possible, taking the derivative of (5)

(S1) $latex \frac{dt_2}{da_s} = \frac{1}{a_{go}} \frac{dv_p}{da_s} – \frac{v_p-v_{safe}}{a_{go}^2} \frac{da_{go}}{da_s} $.

and then the derivative of (4)
(S2) $latex \frac{da_{go}}{da_s} = -a_{max} \frac{v_{safe}}{v_{p}^2} \frac{dv_p}{da_s} $

Substituting and doing a small amount of algebra:

(S4) $latex \frac{dt_y}{da_s} = (\frac{1}{a_{go}} \frac{dv_p}{da_s}) \{1 + \frac{a_{max}}{a_{go}} \frac{v_{safe}(v_p-v_{safe})}{v_{p}^2} \}$

Observing $latex \frac{dv_p}{da_s} = -t_1 $ and substituting results in
(S5) $latex \frac{dt_y}{da_s} = (\frac{ -t_1}{a_{go}} \{1 + \frac{a_{max}}{a_{go}} \frac{v_{safe}(v_p-v_{safe})}{v_{p}^2} \}$

In the driving scenario envisioned, this derivative is always negative which is likely what many people expected without resorting to calculus.

The reason the time required to clear the light decreases with the deceleration is the critical stopping distance, $latex x_c $ is smaller for a driver who enters at a speed $latex v_a $ but already decelerating before he can respond to the light. So, although those drivers would require more time to clear the intersection were they to chose to do so, they don’t need to. They should stop. The minimum time required is for those drivers whose deceleration was insufficient to permit them to stop.

So the largest required time for the yellow occurs when $latex a_s =0 $ which means they began to slow down only in response to the light changing to yellow.
The main result of the superfluous interlude is to show that Jälrström was entirely wise and reasonable to restrict his analysis to the one that mattered at the outset.

Superfluous interlude finished: Simplify.

The problem now becomes more like the one Jälrström discussed. For this case $latex v_p= v_a $ and

(6) $latex t_{2,max} = t_1 + \frac{v_a-v_{safe}}{a_{go}} $.
Equation (4) becomes
(7) $latex a_{go} = \frac{a_{max}}{v_{a}^2} \{ v_{a}^2 – v_{safe}^2 \} $

And (8) $latex t_{2,max} = t_1 + \frac{v_a}{a_{max} } \frac{v_a} {v_a+v_s } $

So, my result for the minimum time for a yellow light should remain on is:

(9) $latex t_{y,req} = t_1 + \frac{v_a}{a_{max}} \frac{v_a} {v_a+v_s} + W/v_{safe} $

where $latex v_a $ is the maximum permissible speed on the road, $latex v_{safe} $ is the maximum safe speed for clearing the intersection, $latex a_{max} $ is the maximum reasonable deceleration rate for car’s stopping when the yellow light turns on and $latex w $ is the sum of the effective width of the intersection and the length of the vehicle.

Sharp eyed readers will notice my final result differs from Jälrström’s which is

(10) $latex t_{y,req} = t_1 + \frac{2v_a-v_{safe}}{2a_{max}} + W/v_{safe} $

That my result and Jälrström’s differ may, possibly, delight the “Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering and Land Surveying” or anyone who thinks it is wiser to fine someone $500 to shut Jalstrom up rather than allow people to listen to Jälrström’s analysis and conclusions about traffic lights.

But if someone is delighted, their delight is unwarranted. In fact, Jälrström’s answer is just as good as mine. Arguably, his is better.

The difference in our solutions lies in our assumption about which traffic maneuvers the driver should be ‘expected’ to do when faced with a yellow light. As you recall, I said I was unable to entirely tease out the precise scenario Jälrström intended to analyze; specifically, I couldn’t determine the nature of the deceleration “a” in the one page summary I could get my hands on.

In my analysis, I assumed the driver was sufficiently skilled to pick out $latex a_2 $ such that they would slow to the safe speed, $latex v_s $, when they just reached the intersection. Jälrström’s analysis appears to assume the driver doesn’t try to finesse their deceleration this finely; based on is answer, it appears assumes the driver decelerates at $latex a_max $ until they reached $latex v_s $ and then crossed the light.

While finessing acceleration and deceleration is a fine skill to have, one might very well argue that those designing timing of yellow lights ought not to assume drivers have the skills of Indy race car drivers. Some drivers on the road may be 87 year old retirees visiting their daughters. Using Jälrström’s equation would permit these more mature drivers to clear the intersection and arrive at their daughters home without getting a ticket.

Which scenario is the correct one to use determining the minimum time for a light is precisely the sort of discussion that people ought to have regarding setting light times. That is: Do people think overly cautious drivers who were a bit to heavy on their brakes and should get tickets if they don’t clear the intersection? If not, the yellow light should be timed using Jälrström’s equation. If you think they should be more skilled than that, the light can be timed with my equation.

How do these compare the current equations for timing of traffic lights?
Evidently, currently traffic lights are timed using an equation that results from “THE PROBLEM OF THE AMBER SIGNAL LIGHT IN TRAFFIC FLOW” by published Gazis, Herman, and Maradudin in 1959 which is available here. In that paper, the authors analyzed the situation where a car moving at constant speed either brakes and stops or they maintain their constant speed and move through the intersection at their initial speed $latex v_a $. Of course this is precisely what cars do when the light turns yellow on an intersection they can safely travel through at their current speed.

In that case, the car follows the green trace superimposed on the graph shown to the right time required for them to clear is:

(11) $latex t_{y,req} = t_1 + \frac{v_a}{2a_{max} } + W/v_{a} $

This time is indicated by the final vertical green dashed line. The Gaziz, Herman and Maradudin equation always results in shorter times for the yellow light than use of either Jälrström’s or my equation. The difference arises for the same reason my equation differs from Jälrström’s. They analyzed a different driving maneuver: They assumed that if the driver could not stop, they driver would also not slow down while approaching the light. The driver would then pass through the intersection moving at the speed limit.

However, as any experienced driver knows, there are many reasons it is often not possible. One might need to slow down to turn into a grocery store, because geese decided to cross a short way down the road, because the car in ahead slowed to enter the grocery store, or, as, evidently, Jälrström noted, because one is planning to turn at the intersection. In these cases it is rather unfair to receive a ticket when there is no way to either stop in time or clear the intersection before it turns yellow.

Scenario Dependence
One might ask whether this analysis closes the door on the issue of proper timing? Not at all.

One thing that should be evident to all here is that the computation of the minimum time light depends on the range of scenarios one envisions could occur when a driver approaching a light sees the light turn yellow. I would suggest that those setting the timing think through a range of driving scenareos and make sure those whose driving was both within the law and reasonable legal when the light turned yellow and whose responses were prudent and legal should be able to clear the light.

It seems to me the scenario involving cars that must slow down is common enough that I think this means the light designers should no longer use the equation by Gazis, Herman, and Maradudin and replace it with another. Jälrström’s equation seems like a good choice.

Are there other scenarios we might expect the driver to do? Sure. I’m sure blog visitors can think of some. Many will not require any increase in time beyond that proposed by Jälrström, but perhaps one might. Discussing hypothetical scenarios and how each might require some minimum time for a yellow light seems like a sensible approach to the issue of traffic signals. It is certainly a more reasonable response to Jälrström’s criticism of light timing than having the Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering and Land Surveying fine him $500 for discussing the timing of traffic lights.

Especially as Jälrström is correct: If one is going to hand out tickets based on blowing these lights, then lights timed using the 1959 equation are mistimed.