{"id":7967,"date":"2009-11-12T12:45:59","date_gmt":"2009-11-12T18:45:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/?p=7967"},"modified":"2009-11-12T20:08:00","modified_gmt":"2009-11-13T02:08:00","slug":"politically-motivated-nofollows","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/2009\/politically-motivated-nofollows\/","title":{"rendered":"Politically Motivated Nofollows at RC?!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of my readers told me RC started no-following links to certain sites. He detected this after I mentioned the possibility of nofollowing links to &#8220;www.blogactionday.org&#8221; while still participating.  When you link someone, using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mattcutts.com\/blog\/quick-comment-on-nofollow\/\">Nofollow<\/a> will cause Google to not count that link toward the blogs or sites authority.  (The linking practices of &#8220;www.blogactionday.org&#8221; that group got me so steamed I deleted my posts discussing that day!)<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, when the reader told me he noticed this, I though&#8230; really?  But as it happens, I use Firefox and have an extension that highlights &#8220;nofollow&#8221; links in pink. Other links show normally.  I visited <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2009\/11\/its-all-about-me-thane\/\">RC today.<\/a> Here&#8217;s what I saw: <\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_7966\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7966\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/RCNofollows.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/RCNofollows-500x500.jpg\" alt=\"Figure 1: RC Nofollows editorial links.\" title=\"RCNofollows\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7966\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/RCNofollows-500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/RCNofollows-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/RCNofollows.jpg 741w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7966\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 1: RC Nofollows editorial links.<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n(The pink, nofollowed links are to <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.news.com.au\/heraldsun\/andrewbolt\/index.php\/heraldsun\/comments\/gore_clears_carbon_dioxide_of_most_blame\/\">Andrew Bolt<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.prisonplanet.com\/al-gore-admits-co2-does-not-cause-majority-of-global-warming.html\">Prison Planet<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s another RC post with  pink no followed links:<br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7973\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7973\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/MoreRCLinks.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/MoreRCLinks-500x166.jpg\" alt=\"Figure 2: More nofollowed links.\" title=\"MoreRCLinks\" width=\"500\" height=\"166\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7973\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/MoreRCLinks-500x166.jpg 500w, https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/MoreRCLinks-300x99.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/MoreRCLinks.jpg 658w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7973\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 2: More nofollowed links.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p>Ok. So I know you are thinking &#8220;That b*****d, Gavin!!  He&#8217;s trying to make sure Google doesn&#8217;t think my site is super awesome! He&#8217;s killing my search rank!&#8221;   <\/p>\n<p>Well, he&#8217;s not killing your search rank. Or my search rank.  He&#8217;s just not giving us any link love. <\/p>\n<p>And  before you spew out too much venom, take a look at <a href=\"http:\/\/motls.blogspot.com\/\">Lubos&#8217;s blog: <\/a><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7968\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7968\" style=\"width: 274px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/Lubos.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/Lubos-274x500.jpg\" alt=\"Figure 3: Lubos nofollows most external links.\" title=\"Lubos\" width=\"274\" height=\"500\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7968\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/Lubos-274x500.jpg 274w, https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/Lubos-164x300.jpg 164w, https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/Lubos.jpg 428w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 274px) 100vw, 274px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7968\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 2: Lubos nofollows most external links.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p>I haven&#8217;t made a thorough study, but looks like Lubos nofollows nearly <em>all<\/em> his external links even those of sites I think he likes.  Beats me why. I&#8217;m  pretty sure this decision on Lubos&#8217;s part doesn&#8217;t improve Google&#8217;s estimation of <i>his<\/I> blog, (or if it does, it barely does.) However, his no-following those links ensures that Google won&#8217;t count his outgoing links toward the ranks of bloggers he a<em>ctually likes and approves of<\/em>. Very odd. <\/p>\n<p>Not only very odd, but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if Lubos&#8217;s behavior had a greater negative effect on ranks in his own rank and that of his link neighborhood than RC&#8217;s decision to nofollow those links.  After all, if Lubos doesn&#8217;t link Anthony Watts, Google doesn&#8217;t &#8220;count&#8221; that toward Anthony&#8217;s reputation.  Then, when Anthony, who links a lot, gives a link, his link has less authority than it would have if Lubos had given him followed links.   <\/p>\n<p>The effect of Lubos&#8217; behavior may even be worse than that. Here&#8217;s something <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mattcutts.com\/blog\/pagerank-sculpting\/\">Matt Cutts<\/a> of Google said back in June:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Q: Okay, but doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t this encourage me to link out less? Should I turn off comments on my blog?<br \/>\nA: I wouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t recommend closing comments in an attempt to \u00e2\u20ac\u0153hoard\u00e2\u20ac\u009d your PageRank. In the same way that Google trusts sites less when they link to spammy sites or bad neighborhoods, <em>parts of our system encourage links to good sites.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Since Lubos nofollows links to good, non-spammy sites, he may fail to trigger the part of Google&#8217;s system that gives him ++ points for linking to non-spammy sites.  If so, Lubos is kicking himself in the shins. <\/p>\n<p>Does all this political nofollowing matter a lot? Not really.  It&#8217;s not as if SEO and link rank is going to affect the traffic at a climate blog very much.  Most of the traffic seems to be driven by <a href=\"http:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\">WUWT<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.climatedepot.com\/\">climate depot.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Still, it&#8217;s interesting to see the politics played out with nofollow.  <\/p>\n<h4>Update:<\/h4>\n<p>Note: To show how politicized the nofollow decision can be, in a post primarily about a peer reviewed paper that included both Roger Pielke Jr. and Roger Pielke Sr. as co-authors, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2009\/11\/muddying-the-peer-reviewed-literature\/\">Gavin<\/a> nofollowed the links to <a href=\"http:\/\/rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com\/2009\/08\/exchange-with-gavin-schmidt-on.html\">Roger Jr.&#8217;s<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/12\/error-identified-by-urs-neu-in-one-of-my-interpretations-of-the-results-in-lin-et-al-2007\/\">Roger. Sr.&#8217;s<\/a> blogs.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of my readers told me RC started no-following links to certain sites. He detected this after I mentioned the possibility of nofollowing links to &#8220;www.blogactionday.org&#8221; while still participating. When you link someone, using Nofollow will cause Google to not count that link toward the blogs or sites authority. (The linking practices of &#8220;www.blogactionday.org&#8221; that &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/2009\/politically-motivated-nofollows\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Politically Motivated Nofollows at RC?!<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[134],"tags":[303,212,211,144],"class_list":["post-7967","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","tag-gavin","tag-linking","tag-nofollow","tag-real-climate"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7967","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7967"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7967\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7967"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7967"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rankexploits.com\/musings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7967"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}