Lucia, that was a nice thought that accompanied the picture of your mother-in-law in her youth. It would have applied to my mother-in-law. My condolences to you and your husband and his family.
R.I.P.
Out of curiosity, who did you ask to get permission? ASCAP has this work (Work ID: 70063277, ISWC: T9050447193). “Permission is not required for music played or sung as part of a worship service unless that service is transmitted beyond where it takes place (for example, a radio or television broadcast).” The service may not be considered a public performance. It probably makes a difference if someone sings it live or a CD is played or the YouTube video is played, since then the performer is also added to the mix. http://www.ascap.com/licensing/licensingfaq.aspx#general
The history of this song is here:
gumbo.blogspot.com/2015/01/vespers-going-home.html
“This piece was composed by William Arms Fisher (1861 – 1948), an American composer” and the music is from AntonÃn Dvořák’s New World Symphony.
My condolences.
Do you mean ask to permission to play Going Home at a funeral?
The tune was written by Dvorak and performed in 1893. The lyrics are by “William Arms Fisher, Boston, July 21, 1922”.
There may be versions that are not in the public domain, but plenty exist in the public domain. Certainly Dvorak’s tune is public domain.
OH– Now I understand what you are asking. We asked “The Catholic Church” (well, their music person). That person says they need to “ask corporate” whether we can use that song.
The Catholic Church doesn’t let you just play any old thing. We were given a fairly short list of approved songs.
Notably other songs not on “the list” of approved songs:
Panis Angelicus (or anything by Aquinas).
Most songs in your hymnal when we were kids.
Most of the songs on the list we were given are crappy “guitar mass” songs. If they don’t let us play “Going Home” we are asking for “Panis Angelicus” or “Tatum Ergo”.
That said: A no will remind us why we fell away from the church in the first place. Listening to the crummy selections on the approved list (at youtube) reminded us too. These songs were just totally annoying at a time when our tolerance for listening to that sort of thing is especially low.
Jim did find some not-horrible songs on the list. (The music director said we picked “unusual” songs. They are the “organ” type songs.)
Lucia,
She looks to have lived a full life and a very long one . . .
John
John,
Yes. Her father made it to 95! Jim’s side side has lots of people who made it to 90. Rosemary’s brother Bob is still alive. I think he’s about 89-92. Somewhere in there.
BTW: “Corporate” got back on the song. We get to do “Going Home”. The organist had several selections.
We wish the list had told us that it was ok to get other songs. It’s really written to make it seem that they want you to consider songs from a very short list (of mostly icky songs.)
We would have picked songs much more quickly if we’d know it wasn’t hard to get a “yes”. Communion choice would probably have been Panis Angelicus– and we’d have looked at a few other ones.
Plus we wouldn’t have had to torture ourselves listing to all the song’s Jim’s cousin Ruth calls “7-11” songs. (Short for same 7 word repeated 11 times.)
Ah, yes the issue of modern day Catholic Church music.
As one ages the world becomes increasingly lonely
Condolences
A beautiful photo and tribute, Deepest sympathy.
Deepest condolences. Losses like that are rarely easy no matter how old they get.
Lucia, I am sorry for your family’s loss.
-Ron
Condolences.
Lucia –
I hope that the memories that you have of her are a comfort to you.
Much sympathy to you and Jim.
Condolences for your loss Lucia.
my thoughts are with you and the family.
what a lovely/poignant song the family have chosen, thanks for sharing..
ps – Lucia – delete if not appropriate – but looking at Rosemary’s photo somehow reminded me of this tune –
Cherry Bomb by John Mellencamp – 1 version below – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF0gsbQKhD8
Dogugieh
“We were young and we were improvin’
Laughin’, laughin’ with our friends
Holdin’ hands meant somethin’, baby
Outside the club”Cherry Bomb””
What’s to object to?
Thanks Lucia, just wanted to be respectful.
Condolences as well.
Lucia, that really is a very nice photo of your mother…really nice.
I went down to the land
whose bars closed upon me for ever;
yet thou didst bring up my life from the Pit,
O Lord my God – Jonah 2:6
Rest in peace, Rosemary.
Andrew
Lucia,
Those who have passed away live on in us… both in flesh and memory. My thoughts are with you.
She looks like a sweet woman. I’m very sorry for your loss.
May Rosemary rest in peace. May you and the others who loved her find comfort and strength in your loss.
My condolences.
May you keep your memories close.
I’m sorry Lucia.
Beautiful picture. I would be very proud.
May she rest in peace.
Michael S,
We think that was taken on her first date with Jim’s Dad.
All: We are waiting to see if we get permission to play “Going Home”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJFhTb1gi6Y
Lucia, that was a nice thought that accompanied the picture of your mother-in-law in her youth. It would have applied to my mother-in-law. My condolences to you and your husband and his family.
R.I.P.
Out of curiosity, who did you ask to get permission? ASCAP has this work (Work ID: 70063277, ISWC: T9050447193). “Permission is not required for music played or sung as part of a worship service unless that service is transmitted beyond where it takes place (for example, a radio or television broadcast).” The service may not be considered a public performance. It probably makes a difference if someone sings it live or a CD is played or the YouTube video is played, since then the performer is also added to the mix.
http://www.ascap.com/licensing/licensingfaq.aspx#general
The history of this song is here:
gumbo.blogspot.com/2015/01/vespers-going-home.html
“This piece was composed by William Arms Fisher (1861 – 1948), an American composer” and the music is from AntonÃn Dvořák’s New World Symphony.
My condolences.
Do you mean ask to permission to play Going Home at a funeral?
The tune was written by Dvorak and performed in 1893. The lyrics are by “William Arms Fisher, Boston, July 21, 1922”.
http://www.americanmusicpreservation.com/GoinHome.htm
There may be versions that are not in the public domain, but plenty exist in the public domain. Certainly Dvorak’s tune is public domain.
OH– Now I understand what you are asking. We asked “The Catholic Church” (well, their music person). That person says they need to “ask corporate” whether we can use that song.
The Catholic Church doesn’t let you just play any old thing. We were given a fairly short list of approved songs.
Notably other songs not on “the list” of approved songs:
Panis Angelicus (or anything by Aquinas).
Most songs in your hymnal when we were kids.
Most of the songs on the list we were given are crappy “guitar mass” songs. If they don’t let us play “Going Home” we are asking for “Panis Angelicus” or “Tatum Ergo”.
That said: A no will remind us why we fell away from the church in the first place. Listening to the crummy selections on the approved list (at youtube) reminded us too. These songs were just totally annoying at a time when our tolerance for listening to that sort of thing is especially low.
Jim did find some not-horrible songs on the list. (The music director said we picked “unusual” songs. They are the “organ” type songs.)
Lucia,
She looks to have lived a full life and a very long one . . .
John
John,
Yes. Her father made it to 95! Jim’s side side has lots of people who made it to 90. Rosemary’s brother Bob is still alive. I think he’s about 89-92. Somewhere in there.
BTW: “Corporate” got back on the song. We get to do “Going Home”. The organist had several selections.
We wish the list had told us that it was ok to get other songs. It’s really written to make it seem that they want you to consider songs from a very short list (of mostly icky songs.)
We would have picked songs much more quickly if we’d know it wasn’t hard to get a “yes”. Communion choice would probably have been Panis Angelicus– and we’d have looked at a few other ones.
Plus we wouldn’t have had to torture ourselves listing to all the song’s Jim’s cousin Ruth calls “7-11” songs. (Short for same 7 word repeated 11 times.)
Ah, yes the issue of modern day Catholic Church music.
As one ages the world becomes increasingly lonely
Condolences
A beautiful photo and tribute, Deepest sympathy.
Deepest condolences. Losses like that are rarely easy no matter how old they get.
Lucia, I am sorry for your family’s loss.
-Ron
Condolences.
Lucia –
I hope that the memories that you have of her are a comfort to you.
Much sympathy to you and Jim.
Condolences for your loss Lucia.
my thoughts are with you and the family.
what a lovely/poignant song the family have chosen, thanks for sharing..
ps – Lucia – delete if not appropriate – but looking at Rosemary’s photo somehow reminded me of this tune –
Cherry Bomb by John Mellencamp – 1 version below –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF0gsbQKhD8
Dogugieh
“We were young and we were improvin’
Laughin’, laughin’ with our friends
Holdin’ hands meant somethin’, baby
Outside the club”Cherry Bomb””
What’s to object to?
Thanks Lucia, just wanted to be respectful.
Condolences as well.
Lucia, that really is a very nice photo of your mother…really nice.