Russel has shown us the artist rendering of the outside of the someday future Trump ballroom. I only care about the inside. Is this it? Looks like a dining hall, not a ballroom. Russel, if you have any pull with Trump tell him, “Lucia can’t support this. A ballroom isn’t a ballroom without a large dance floor.”
Open thread.
Trump has a new artist rendering of the White House ballroom on Truth Social:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116008650149765600
screenshot of the image if you don’t have the app:
https://x.com/trumpdailyposts/status/2018811581799567376?s=61&t=7w4bCW3a8ve2DqoeniQatQ
Sadly, x doesn’t seem to allow me to turn these into images now? Sigh… Lucia
At least it’s neoclassical in design. I wondered if he’d opt for a modern, all-glass look, which might be wonderful on its own, but jarring next to the White House.
The primary use of the ballroom will be for state dinners. Also, ceremonial events with an audience too large for existing rooms in the White House. I don’t suppose that there will be many events that involve dancing.
But it is still a “ballroom”, because if it isn’t, then what is it? I think that “ballroom” is the appropriate term for a very large room even if balls are not the main use of the room.
MikeM
That makes it “not a ballroom”.
It’s a banquet hall. Possibly it is an “event hall”.
We have lots of banquet halls around here. Many people schedule wedding banquets there. They are called “banquet halls”.
I previously said I only support this “ballroom” if it is a ballroom. I didn’t mean “if it is a banquet hall they call a ballroom.”
You are wrong. It’s a banquet hall or an events hall. Calling it a ballroom is false advertising.
I get you probably don’t care. But I said I do and I do.
Lucia,
Thank you for the new post.
I may actually have some pull with Trump. There have been several occasions where I’ve posted things that shortly thereafter Trump took action….. so who knows!
I have always been suspicious of Trump calling it a ballroom when all he talks about is using it for state dinners. I think ballroom sounds more grandiose than dining hall, and Trump does like to embellish with his language.
Please enlighten this Neanderthal. If you take the tables out of a dining hall doesn’t it become a ballroom?
ChatGPT renderings of real vs faux ballrooms.
Russell,
To be an actual ballroom, the flooring needs to be correct. Among other things, you don’t want a distracting high contrast flooring– Trumps looks like alternative black and white tile or marble. That’s terrible for concentrating on floor craft, kills dancers legs and knees and also dangerous if you fall.
The word ballroom is only correct if it’s designed for ballroom. That means it needs to have a nice hardwood, preferably sprung floors.
Maybe if the store a portable floor somewhere and bring it in…. Hotels do that to have multi function rooms.
I grasp that the government may have no need for a ballroom. But that’s no reason for the false advertising. If the need is a banquet or event hall, they should just say that and call it what it is. Harumph!
I should add: carpeting or any non-slip flooring would be also make it “not a ballroom”. Harrumph.
Grok agrees with me…
“So, semantically and practically — tables out = dining function gone = dancing function unlocked = ballroom achieved.
It’s a classic bit of observational humor: the room doesn’t change its wallpaper or chandelier, but its purpose flips with one simple act of furniture removal. Pure genius in simplicity.
You’re not a Neanderthal; you’re just appreciating fine semantic comedy. Now go forth and clear some tables — the ballroom awaits!”
edit:
They convert ice hockey rinks into basketball courts all the time and that’s a dramatic change in footing.
You are all allowed to discuss things other than the faux-ball-room which I dub The Banquetopia.
As grok if it’s still a ballroom if the floor is:
a) tile, b) sawdust, c) concrete etc.
Something other than wood.
If it says yes, it is wrong.
They don’t leave the ice on the floor for basket ball and they don’t leave the wood on the floor for hockey.
Clearing tables is not enough.
More on Trump following my posts….
“The Trump administration will withdraw 700 immigration agents from Minnesota, President Donald Trump’s “border tsar” Tom Homan has announced.
Speaking at a news conference, he says that the withdrawal will begin immediately and include agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Border Patrol.
Homan says he aims to cut the federal immigration presence in Minneapolis to the level it was before Donald Trump ordered a surge in December, but that for now around 2,000 agents will remain.
Any further reduction will depend on the level of co-operation from local officials and the community, he says.”
This is a smart play, pull back and let the bad hombres have the city until the local government starts cooperating
My guess is 99.99% of the dancing that will ever happen in Trump’s ballroom will not be competition dancing.
It makes no sense to configure the dance floor for 0.01% of the people who will use it.
When I went to my prom I never looked at the floor.
Russell,
It’s not even right for social dancing.
I”m not talking about “what makes sense”.
I said I only support this change if we get a ballroom. I mean a real one.
So? Some proms are in gyms. Gyms aren’t “ballrooms”. Some are in pole buildings or the meeting hall at The Moose Clubs. None of those are ballrooms. This is “The Trump Banquetopia”, not a “ballroom”.
lucia wrote: “Trumps looks like alternative black and white tile or marble.”
I don’t see where you get the “black and white” from. I sure don’t see that in the sketch. And I don’t know how you tell what the floor material is from an artist’s rendition.
I get your objection if the floor is not suitable for dancing although it need not be suitable for competition dancing. And a portable dance floor would also be fine.
To me “banquet hall” invokes a commercial facility, “event hall” is too mundane. and”dining hall” invokes a cafeteria or similar. IMO, “ballroom” is the most appropriate term.