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Who would sleep with this guy?

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Bishop Hill posted a tidbit tangentially related to climategate (by way of Oxburg-Fiona Fox etc.) I clicked over to the article in The Sun and had to chuckle when I read their quote from Marion Kinley:

“I said to him, ‘no amount of money would entice me to have an affair with you’.”

“You” referred to Member of Parliament Jim Devine.

Possible to help readers understand Ms. Kinley’s reluctance to have an affair with MP Jim Devine, the Sun ran this photo :


I searched for other pictures at google:

(From life.com.)

Definitely not a physically attractive man. That he and his friend Fiona Fox would a play nasty practical jokes on Ms. Kinley probably further reduces his babe-magnetic potential.

58 thoughts on “Who would sleep with this guy?”

  4. SteveF–
    It’s not often a politician’s sex scandal involves no sex. Fiona Fox is a name that’s been popping up in many climategate related stories.

  5. Lucia,
    There has to be something wrong with this story. It appears to depend on a Marxist having a sense of humor. Our colleagues at His Grace’s discuss Ms. Fox’s journalistic activities at a Marxist publication. Surely no one who was not a Marxist would do that.

    Ergo, she is or was a Marxist. So given the unlikelihood that any Marxist has ever had a sense of humor, her included, how could she be a principal in a practical Joke?

  7. Lucia,

    “It’s not often a politician’s sex scandal involves no sex.”

    I don’t know. Wasn’t a bit of foot play in an airport men’s room enough to generate a sex scandal for a US Congressman? And didn’t lewd emails drive another Congressman from office a couple of years ago (he was my representative)? No sex there either. There doesn’t have to be sex… just a story that appeals to prurient interests.

  8. Lucia,
    It was a terrible joke, yet she is suspected of thinking it was funny. Maybe she did it to be nasty and it was never intended to be a joke.

    More Marxist surely.

  10. SteveF–
    But this Devine wasn’t even trying to have sex with the Kinley. I’m pretty sure Larry “wide stance” Craig was hoping to get some. Mark Foley sent sexually explicit males, and I imagine Mark Foley got off on that.

  13. Hi Lucia, I think global warming is a threat, should I send you my picture so you can mock how I look? I am an ugly son of a bitch.

  14. dorlomin–
    If you are a member of parliament, congressman or some sort of celebrity and you organize a prank where you have someone pretend they are the newsmedia about to report that you are having an affair with a co-worker, then, yes, I will be happy to run your photo with the story.

  15. After the recent attempted character assassinations on Wegman and Lewis, and the on-going demonization of McIntyre and Watts, it is amazing to see what some now choose to complain about.

  18. John M (Comment#54445) October 15th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    After the recent attempted character assassinations on Wegman and Lewis, and the on-going demonization of McIntyre and Watts, it is amazing to see what some now choose to complain about.

    What is this story about? Someone who knew someone who works with someone.

    McIntyre, Watts, Lewis and Wegman are all about character assasination. Lewis resigns from the APS because climate scientists are only in it for the money. What a joke.

  19. bugs,

    I guess you don’t think it’s important that one of those “someones” is a spin-doctor for climate scientists.

  20. Reminds me of the classic put down by a woman who had been married to an overweight man. Someone asked her what their sex life had been like. She replied “it was like having a large wardrobe with a very small key on top of you”.

  26. Tell the truth, Lucia… You can’t make up your mind about who you want to spend a night with in front of the fireplace on the bear rug… this guy or Monkton.

  27. Fiona Fox is the director of the Science and Media Centre.
    She wrote a report about media bias in science for the UK governments science minster, including climate change, very much a cheerleader for all things AGW

    She also said this:
    BBC Newswatch(23/04/10)

    Fiona Fox: “On Climate change there has been a real change.. People like Richard Black and Roger Harrabin [at the BBC] , fighting internally to say we DON’T have to have a sceptic every time we have a climate story.”

    “to have a sceptic in every interview is misleading the public about ‘climate science’” – Fiona Fox

    The Science and Media Centre..

    has Bob Ward on the Board . He is very Pro CAGW, the PR attack dog of choice, see his Guardian article on Montford’s ‘The Hockey Stick Illusion'(he was formerly PR Royal Soceity) (now of the Grantham Institute..)

    http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/pages/about/smc_board.htm

    and in a delicious irony…

    One of the funders of the SMC are…..

    http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/pages/about/funding.htm

    EXXONMOBIL

  28. Re bugs (Comment#54453) October 15th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    It’s all just guilt by association.

    Isn’t that how it works? Lindzen smokes, therefore all his climate science must be wrong. Lewis is old, therefore he must be wrong. Sceptics are funded by ‘big oil’, but please don’t look at SMC’s supporters, BP and Exxon. We’re all part of an organised PR machine. SMC isn’t, it’s apolitical and neutral, and Uther Pendragon being UEA’s PR people during Climategate and being on SMC’s board is just an unfortunate coincidence.

    Ms Fox and SMC have been very central to trying to manage the media coverage of climate science, especially in the UK and as such her views and errors of judgement like this are worth noting. SMC may make a nice study in noble cause corruption some day, started off with the best intentions, but then lost it’s way.

  29. I don’t mean to interfere with the girls’ fun day out, but Marion Kinley herself looks less than spectacular. In fact, she and Jim Devine would make a great match.

  30. sHx– So they might both reject each other, right? But Marion didn’t play the practical joke pretending the media were about to release a story saying she was paying her don’t-touch-me-with-a-then-foot-pole ugly-sweaty boss to service her.

  31. bugs – go and read the thread at Climate Audit if you want to understand the context and the bigger picture. Please bear in mind that the Science Media Centre’s stated objectives are:

    “Our ultimate goal is to facilitate more scientists to engage with the media, in the hope that the public will have improved access to accurate, evidence-based scientific information about the stories of the day.”

    http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/15/fiona-fox-and-the-babe-magnet/

    http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/pages/about/

    There is growing disgust in the UK at those who get into positions of responsibility to game the system:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257207/Expenses-fraud-MPs-peer-insist-face-trial.html

  32. Lucia – Obviously, Jim Devine was trying his luck. But I find Marion Kinley’s statement, “no amount of money would entice me to have an affair with you” as stretching credulity. The lad isn’t exactly an oil tycoon but neither is the lass a Playboy centrefold. She ought to feel happy that some men think she is not beyond servicing, not feel indignant about it.

  34. sHx

    The lad isn’t exactly an oil tycoon but neither is the lass a Playboy centrefold.

    What’s her looks got to do with her unwillingness to sleep with the guy? Even the ugliest of women cannot be assumed willing to sleep with some other interested party (male or female) for pay or free. (Ugly men also cannot be assumed to be willing to sleep with all and sundry for pay or free.)

    I know nuns (and priests) who have taken vows of chastity and wouldn’t sleep with the handsomest man (or most gorgeous woman) on earth for any amount of money.

    But in the case of Devine, I could understand why no woman — no matter how ugly– would want to sleep with him even if he was the last man on earth and this lead to extinction of the human race. The man is physically unappealing and, more importantly, his personality appears to be repellent. Celibacy would be preferable for many women.

  35. Re: lucia,
    Also, I’m not a man, but I don’t think Marian Kinley is so unattractive she couldn’t find a man. I’ve seen plenty of older brides who I think are less attractive than she. So I think the theory that she should be grateful for anyone’s attention is a stretch.

    If she says she wouldn’t sleep with her boss Devine for any amount of money, I believe her. Maybe he wouldn’t sleep with her either– but it’s irrelevant to his behavior. He’s the one who decided it would be a fun trick to make up the story that they were having an affair and that she was sleeping with him because he paid her to do so.

  36. “sHx (Comment#54482) October 16th, 2010 at 7:37 am
    … but neither is the lass a Playboy centrefold.”

    English newspapers have the nasty habit of showing pictures of prominent women before and after airbrushing, most recently Twiggy, Madonna and Pelosi. Sensational what can be done. If Pelosi can be made younger than 70 years, Ms Kinley could easily be photoshopped into a centrefold girl.

  37. Well, Lucia, my lighthearted entry into this sexless-half-celebrities thread was to illustrate the point that Marion Kinley and Jim Devine are not the Beauty and the Beast that they are portrayed to be. In terms of physical appearances, they look like they could make a matching couple. Devine looks like he has drunk a bottle of scotch too many, while Kinley doesn’t look a day older than 52. They both look like they have fat on their body commensurate to their age, sex and level of inactivity.

    I might agree with you that probably there is more men who would sleep with Kinley than women who would sleep with Devine. Not because she is prettier than he, but because male homo sapiens are more promiscuous than their females. And homo sapiens would have a much greater chance of survival if Devine was the last man on earth than if Kinley was the last woman.

    I don’t know why you had to invoke Catholic celibacy into your argument but, yes, Cardinal Ratzingers and Mother Theresas would not commit the sin of sex on earth perhaps, but who knows what they are up to once in heaven.

    Rest assured, I fully support Marion Kinley in her conflict with her former boss. But I simply do not believe her when she says she would not sleep with her boss for any amount of money. Not even for a diamond ring? How about a luxury car, or a house, or a mansion? Or all of them combined, plus 10 million bucks? I know a woman who slept with a man just for an apple.

  42. Mike Myers in a fat suit reprising Fat Ba$tard for the next Austin Powers movie? “Where’s the bebby?”. Franny you watching?

  43. Good for you, Lucia. Putting this whole episode into context, we have a physically unattractive male politician who for some reason (if it were a practical joke, the joke is on you, MP Jimmy boy) thinks his female employee will evidently see the possibility that others might think they were having an affair. I think it takes the view of an ego centric politician, of which most are, to even contemplate a remark like that.

    In all fairness to Jim Devine, however, it must be realized that Jim was probably caught contemplating his fate from being tried for theft as an MP. He surely would be magnitudes more appealing had he been in a proper frame of mind and had a chance to suck in his gut and put a sexy grin on his face. Well, at least, his mother might have liked that image better.

  44. Lady goes to plumbing store and clerk explains the price of a very expensive sink. Lady says that that sink is way beyond my budget.

    Clerk ask lady if she needs a towel ring. Lady says that price is more to her liking. Clerk ask lady if she will be needing a screw for the towel ring.

    Lady says not for the towel ring, but I am contemplating it for that sink.

  45. What’s her looks got to do with her unwillingness to sleep with the guy?

    Uh . . . who started the discussion of people’s looks and their relative sexual attractiveness, complete with photos?

    Not your best work.

  46. sHX–

    Devine looks like he has drunk a bottle of scotch too many, while Kinley doesn’t look a day older than 52.

    I’m 51. I’ll have to post a recent photo. 🙂

    I don’t know why you had to invoke Catholic celibacy into your

    Uhmmm… because someone suggested that she should be grateful to get attention and these are concrete examples that explain that many women would not be “grateful” to get the attention Devine.

    I find it believable she would not sleep with Devine for any amount of money.

    Uh . . . who started the discussion of people’s looks and their relative sexual attractiveness, complete with photos?

    Uhh.. my question isn’t “why are you discussing her looks”. I have nothing against people discussing her looks. I often discuss people’s looks. My question means: Why should the fact that she might not be good looking make her willing to sleep with her boss who is both physically unattractive and socially repugnant? I don’t think there is a rule that says

    “If a woman is relatively unattractive, she must act like a tramp and be willing to have sex with absolutely any man who might be interested.” Unattractive women (or men) may find the pickin’s are slimmer, but they can and often will prefer celibacy to having sex with men (or women) who are repellent either physically, morally, socially or in any other way.

  47. Just had a glance at Marion Kinley and had my wife look at her and Jim Devine and compare their attractiveness. She gave Jim a null reading on the scale from 1 to 10 and Marion a 5 or 6 and I agree we are not talking about two equally unattractive people here.

    Plus Jim is a politician and I say we should never pass up an opportunity to ridicule members of that group.

  48. Lucia- you sound like you’re lost for words. So I won’t press you on the task any further… for now. In all fairness, I should have taken Steve McIntyre to task as well for the same infringment. By golly, he thinks his fitness makes up for his facial hair!

    I’m 51. I’ll have to post a recent photo.

    Heh he! Been lurking here for nearly a year now. I’ve already seen your photo. You look pretty for your age, and certainly younger than Marion Kinley at 47. Better still, you can add, subtract, bake apple pies and knit sweaters. And you can take a man’s eyes out with your needles, quite by accident. Hell, I like you already! If you knew me in real life, you’d like me too. In fact, you’d like me so much you’d want to sleep with me, which would cause all kinds of complications for you and for a naive, acne-ed 15 year-old like me.

    In all seriousness, thanks for being good sports. I hope you and other sisters realise my main motivation was to inject some more humour into the thread.

  50. sHx– Well… I only post flattering photos of me. So, that gives me the edge.

    You look pretty for your age,

    Oh you sweet talker you. 🙂 (Heh!)

    Out of curiosity, what do you think of this close relative of mine? She’s younger than I am.

    I don’t mind facial hair on men. My husband had a mustache. Fitness isn’t required to make up for it.

    But what’s with that facial expression on Devine? Notice it’s in both photos.

  51. Out of curiosity, what do you think of this close relative of mine? She’s younger than I am.

    She looks familiar. Maybe because she has that girl-next-door looks. Lovely, lovely smile. Gorgeous cheeks. Teeth like a string of pearls. Eyes that could warm the globe. Beautiful Northern European tan, and a blonde to boot. She looks like she has the brains, too, the sexiest female organ, IMHO. Proof that plain looking girls can be prettier than glamour babes. In fact, if she were mine, I wouldn’t swap her for any Playboy centrefold model. She also exhumes femininity and, better still, maternal quality. Not many women can do that before really become mothers. I can imagine having half-a-dozen sHxes and sHxesses with her within a decade if she were my girl.

    Now, please don’t tell me she’s your daughter. If she is, Lucia, you and I are over already. You cannot possibly compete with her.

    But what’s with that facial expression on Devine? Notice it’s in both photos.

    It is a hatchet job. The guy looks drunk too, not just disheveled. No doubt they would have a more flattering picture of him in the archives but the context must have forbidden it. I believe if it weren’t for the alcohol abuse, he would have looked much better in body and face. He ought to lose some weight and grow a beard.

  52. “sHx (Comment#54569) October 16th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
    No doubt they would have a more flattering picture of him in the archives”

    He is a professional politician, is (or was) he not? And both of them are socialists. So yes, there must be flattering pictures, at least at the Gruniad.

    But, dear sHx, please leave the building and come back with another pseudonym (Lucia won’t rat on you); you would not have written what you did using your real name.

  53. She is my sister’s daughter. That’s a snapshot for cross-country. My sister has two kids; I think both are gorgeous. Both are very nice to boot. My brother’s kid is gorgeous too! 🙂

    No doubt they would have a more flattering picture of him in the archives but the context must have forbidden it.

    I checked google. There are a few slightly better obviously posed shots. But those are only slightly better. He is not good looking.

  54. “lucia (Comment#54612) October 17th, 2010 at 6:27 am
    She is my sister’s daughter.”

    Good. I was afraid it might be a hoax (a picture of Ms Kinley when she was a sweet 17).

  55. Re: Alexej Buergin ,

    you would not have written what you did using your real name.

    It did cause me to check if his IP suggested “TCO”. It doesn’t. (This is not a definitive test though. 🙂 )

  56. Alexej-
    If you saw pictures of my two sisters and me at that age, you’d see a family resemblance. But… maggie got good looks from both sides of her family, so she ended up better looking than any of us.

  57. Lucia>

    Have you told your niece that you posted her picture in a thread called ‘Who would sleep with this guy?’ 🙂

    Anyway, if she’s ever stuck for a date, I’m sure Anthony Watts can crowd-source one for her…

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